Conversation with Iltheos, Konstantinos & Leslee, 24 February 2013
(First, a bit of explanation from Leslee…)
Before I share the conversation itself, I’d like to offer a little background info.
At the beginning of the conversation, Iltheos refers to my friend “Stephen”. I hope to be sharing more about Steve and his work soon; for now, I’ll keep it brief.
For years, Steve has been guided to build many devices, with the understanding that they somehow assist in the emergence of the New Earth. These devices work with energy in powerful ways. I’ve had the privilege of experiencing some of these devices first-hand, and since I don’t want to steal Steve’s thunder, I’ll just say that I find them amazing. He and his partner Susan have recently been asked to begin to share this work. Please check out their new site, “Portal of Lyra”… It’s still under construction, but if you “follow” it you’ll receive updates as they add more images and information about what’s going on.
Iltheos also refers to “Oracle”; I’ll also explain a little bit about this term.
“Oracle” refers to a collective of very ancient and advanced beings who have connected with several of us recently under a variety of “names”. Their energy is very pure and “unaffiliated”. They are so ancient and advanced that to try to describe them as a race, species, or even with a name is irrelevant, aside from the convenience it grants us as humans who still use words to communicate.
Oracle tell us they originated many aeons ago in Alpha Centauri, and evolved from the original bi-pedal creatures manifested in this universe by the Elohim. These original beings first manifested upon Lyra, and from them developed most star-traveling races we’re familiar with: Pleiadians, Arcturians, Andromedans, Sirians, Orions, etc.
“Oracle” (the term) also refers to the same collective as the “Masters Of Change’ (which I’ve mentioned a little previously).
Iltheos shared with us that although we experience him as an Arcturian, he is also part of this collective, Oracle, as are some guides that many of us follow. Their ship “arrived” in our solar system in late January 2013, and at this time I understand their ship literally enveloped our planet, in a benevolent and protective manner. Oracle are building a New Firmament for us, a protective field for the planet, and they guide many of us in activities that assist this effort (whether we realize it or not!).
The image below depicts the way I have seen their “ship”. To give you an idea of its size, the blue sphere in the center is Earth. I understand that oftentimes when I travel astrally to places that appear to be planets or “Earthly” locations (rather than “ships” in the conventional “Star-Trek” sense), I’m actually going to this “ship”. I feel this may well be true for many of us.
Oracle’s Light Ship Enveloping Earth (Urantia), as perceived by Leslee on 23 February 2013
During the first part of the conversation Konstaninos and I were having on February 24, I had been describing to Kosta these devices that Steve has been building. I shared how sitting with them had led me and other friends to receive some powerful meditations, visions, and messages.Now lets get to the conversation.
Iltheos let Konstantinos know that he wished to speak about this, and that started things. For the most part during this conversation, Konstantinos channeled Iltheos, but sometimes Iltheos popped back and forth between us.
Thus the conversation began:
First, a message for Stephen, about his devices.
He should continue doing things his way. He does very well so far, and all of these devices are very significant. There are more things to them than he currently knows.
(Leslee asked Iltheos about the crystal grids laid out around the device.)
The crystal grids are related to the Solar system. The crystal grid is a model of the universe, a simulation of the universe. Through these projects, (all of) you learn about the construction of your inner divinity and you learn that there is no separation between you and the space you think you’re in, no separation between your inner universe and the one you think is outside.
(Leslee asked Konstantinos two questions for Iltheos.)
(Question 1: About our Guides, when we sit and can feel their presence, but don’t really receive a specific “message”… can he please explain more of what that’s about?)
(Question 2: Why is it that our choices are sometimes not clear?)
Guidance is many things, appears in many forms and has many facets. By that, I mean that guidance can appear in words but also, in the form of silence. Silence is communication too, maybe a stronger communication than anything you have experienced so far in this lifetime.
The presence that you feel is energy. Words are a different kind of energy; they change and translate the energy.
So whether you hear or feel, you still connect with us or whatever you feel you’re connected with. When you feel, you see that you already have answers, no questions.While you feel us, you can understand more things in that very moment, which moment cannot probably be measured. You realize for that ‘nanosecond’ that you don’t have questions, but only answers, because you only FEEL. But when you try to adjust this very feeling into words, then the answers fade (like your dream memories when you wake up in the physical world) and questions start to arise.
Next question: Why is it that our choices are sometimes not clear?
Even the non-clarity is clarity itself in its own way.
(Leslee asked: Can you please explain further?)
Of course. You know the answers already.
Even if you know them, sometimes you feel that you have a not very clear situation which seems like a paradox. At the same time, the answer that you need at that very moment maybe seems dramatic, unclear, but that moment is exactly what you need to experience, in this moment.
This yearning that you feel in your need to receive a little more is part of that unlimited power that you call “will”. So while you are moving onto this path as seekers of your personal truth and guidance, you discover, even if you don’t realize it consciously sometimes, that whatever you experience is an answer that is consisted from codes, and this series of answers wait for you to be un-coded, from your actions.
In a few words, you ask to receive. Well, in this moment of change, most of the times you have to act in order to receive.
Of course sometimes some of you may say that you are afraid of the drama, but as you experience specific moments of your life, this is also an action in itself. You are choosing to experience it as drama. And so a result will come from this action too…
These results are the codes that wait for you to solve them, in order to move on.
These messages are meant for the Heart, not the brain, because the New Man that arises, the man that moves on to the Adulthood, will not have a mind any more.
But of course by this doesn’t mean he is going to be stupid. What We mean and what I mean, is that your Heart will be your new Mind. We are all part of a bigger being, and so with Oracle.
(Leslee asked: Do you suggest another word besides “Oracle”?)
To a specific degree it is accurate.
It is not random that the heart is the thing that gives life to your body, transfers life through your blood. And so, this Heart (and I mean the one with capital H) is the one that gives and is going to give you life, which includes, among many other things, intelligence.
This great Heart is the one that will be the only thing that you will ever need. You won’t need for anything more than this. Name it “Guidance”, or whatever else you think is your problem at that very moment, and your Heart will be your shelter and center.
We’re done for now.
(Leslee observed: What I’m seeing is that what much of what arises for me right now is so that I can learn the skill of making choices from the Heart. Yes?)
Yes. But not through conflict.
(Leslee asked: What does that mean?)
(At this point Iltheos connected directly with Leslee.)
It’s not a CONFLICT between Mind and Heart. It’s like a growth, maturation. Ripening, blossoming, reaching of fullness… It’s the SHIFT – that is the shift that you are making right now. You are learning what groups you resonate with, you are finding your families; this is like a huge Gathering.
This is the new way of receiving information, by coming together in groups, even if it is just 2 people. You will NOT receive all the info you need unless you do this. It’s your next step to 5D. You have to learn this step before you can move forward, and this is why there seems to have been a stopping of energy flow since 12/12/12.
Once you accept that this is the next step, you will accelerate your journey, your path, tremendously and profoundly, and through this, you will find great joy.
(Leslee asked: I’m to draw what I saw of earth & ships, yesterday?)
That’s only one piece. Konstantinos has the other piece. I will show it to him.
(Leslee: I need to do my piece first. That’s why I need to go, so I can draw.)
“We gave you the motive.”
(This message gives me, Leslee, the motivation & energy to make the drawings.)
(What about the new firmament, and the slits I saw when I was flying from Phoenix to Portland last Monday?)
This is part of it.
(Iltheos goes back to Konstantinos now.)
What you saw during your trip, while in the sky, is part of the things that you were feeling that you needed to experience, lots of times before.
(Leslee asked: They were ships?)
Yes, they were ships. Their essence was pure light. They met your light at that very appropriate moment. This energy was waiting for you to be in the sky.
(Leslee: It was like they were waving.)
(Leslee asked: If people ask what kinds of ships they were… It’s important that they NOT have a name?)
They do not need a name – does the Infinite need a name, even if you use a WORD for it? And that’s part of the point.
(Explanation from Leslee: Below is a sketch of one of the Light Ships I saw north of Las Vegas on 18 February 2013, while the jet I was traveling north in was passing an area east of Quartzite Mountain. I saw 3 similar ships during the span of about 10 minutes. They all appeared among the clouds as very narrow slits of light that became brighter and brighter until almost blindingly brilliant, and then faded gradually back into the hazy clouds that were hovering between the two mountain ranges. It almost looked as if the sky was being peeled open and another sun was blazing through a tear in a veil… But as they faded, they held a shape like a very thin strip, transforming from the very bright strip to a light strip, finally to a distinct lavender streak in the clouds, and eventually disappearing.)
Light Ships Over Arizona, as seen by Leslee from an airplane, 18 February 2013
(Leslee asked: What about the clouds I saw afterwards? The lenticular clouds. When I saw them, I knew they were not ships, and I felt disappointed and confused, because so many people feel these types of clouds are ships. I don’t want to tell them they are NOT ships!)
These (particular clouds that you saw after the ships) were not ships, but they are an expression of the infinite beings’ work that they are doing – and we are doing now. But sometimes they are ships, just not in that moment.
(We should not assume they are always ships.)
(Explanation from Leslee: At this point we were talking about lenticular clouds that I saw after the light ships. There was a series of 5 of them, all aligned at the same height in the sky, above the mountains. As we flew around them, their shapes shifted and I could see how unseen forces were molding the clouds, sweeping them up and around. Energetically, on the one hand they “merely’ felt like clouds of water vapor; on the other hand, I could feel very strongly that they were being actively manipulated by forces other than air currents. It was very profound, to me, to be flying alongside them at that height. I sensed at that time that someone was very happy I was airborne, and that flying – even in a jet – opened new energetic doorways for me.)
(Leslee commented: About the images of the ship of “Oracle”, that I saw when I was meditating yesterday. I got a very strong impression of how the crew was on the ship.)
The ship are them and they are the ship.
(Leslee asked: About the diagram that I was asked to begin a couple weeks ago, showing wavelengths and frequencies and amplitudes, and how they weave together and intersect, and that at the point where things intersect, then we see through multiple “dimensions”. That diagram – is it finished?)
It is finished. It is time to share it, yes.
“Particles and Waves”, an image illustrating how energy and matter converge, intersect, overlap and interweave
[Another explanation from Leslee: I was asked several weeks ago to produce a 3D computer generated model depicting how waves and particles intersect and interweave, as a device to help people visualize the possibilities that arise regarding energies and particles meeting and overlapping. This image is a snapshot from that model, showing several different waves woven together. They vary in color, amplitude, frequency, and intensity… And perhaps you can see how, even beyond that, some appear like very tiny tubes while others flow like rivers. And pattern adds yet another dimension to their characteristics. It’s my understanding that when we have experiences of multiple “places” or “dimensions” simultaneously, we are peeking in at one (or more) of these points where different phenomena converge.]
(Leslee explains: I asked next about a legal notice I received recently, and my confusion about how to respond. In my heart I know that I should ignore it and allow it to unfold, but that seems so contradictory to what “society” expects. I feel expected to take action, to respond, to defend my position. Yet I also see how much energy that would take, and what a distraction it would be.)
Let the lawsuit go.
It is a chance, not a problem, to show how you really cannot be harmed by the old system.
(It’s part of what I volunteered for in this lifetime.)
It will end well. You have been through this before … And through these experiences, you have met beautiful people, made many friends… These challenges are like a mere shadow, a black smoke, so blow it away.
(Leslee explains: Related to this, I next asked about OPPT. Meanwhile, Kosta was thinking to himself that he wished he had the money to help me, when suddenly he said, “Wow, that was like being thunderstruck!” Here is what Iltheos said to him.)
“But can’t you see that if you help her, you would condemn her? Her power lies in this experience, so it must be embraced.”
Share this with others. Many others are in a similar situation. This will help the OPPT get finished, completed, and then enough people will use it so that it becomes real.
It’s a paradox, a contrast, two opposites co-exist. This information – OPPT – is there for everyone to see and think about, and for some people they will not choose to see it. It’s like not asking for help.
(Leslee explains: This confirmed what I had been receiving/seeing, and what Oracle had said last night: That I need to learn more about OPPT, become involved in that process, and put it to use in this situation that has arisen for me. This is part of the bigger role I committed to play here in this lifetime.)
End of Conversation.
To wrap up this rambling post, I’ll add that after this conversation, I received some much-desired clarity about several topics in my life. In particular, I had been wondering what the heck was going on with some of the changes I’m experiencing. I could not tell if I was being “tested” in some ways, or being given subtle hints about how to move forward. Contemplating the guidelines Iltheos offered help me to see things more clearly and peacefully, and for that I’m quite grateful.
This post has taken a while for me to prepare. I wanted to be sure that Stephen approved of the content, and that my words matched Kosta’s understanding of Iltheo’s words. On top of that, it covered so many topics that I’ve been subsequently “distracted” by trying to understand how the pieces fit together, and what additional information I might need to provide, or sketches I might need to make.
It seems to be an on-going work. However, today seems a good day to post the results so far. I’m quite sure there will be more posts that talk about everything from OPPT and related topics to Light Ships, the Firmament, Oracle, Masters of Change… and on and on and on. My head is also spinning with the more vivid dreams I’ve been having in the past few weeks.
I/we hope these ideas inspire you, or perhaps bring new helpful information into your sphere of thought.
(All images by Leslee Hare)